tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post8780138010145850674..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Brave New AnimalJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-78096875479697731212010-09-13T14:57:55.594-05:002010-09-13T14:57:55.594-05:00@Jean: Here's another one related to the envir...@Jean: Here's another one related to the environmental issues, which I saw on Vegan.com... an oregano oil supplement reduces methane emissions from a cow by 40%: <br /><br />http://www.livescience.com/animals/cows-belch-methane-greenhouse-gas-supplement-100908.html <br /><br />@Anonymous: You're assuming I'm not a speciesist.Rhyshttp://letthemeatmeat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-45890680809951163162010-08-29T10:04:54.662-05:002010-08-29T10:04:54.662-05:00Does virtue ethics not advocate respect for animal...Does virtue ethics not advocate respect for animals. Is it really more ethical to genetically engineer away the pain and the lifespan o9f animals to serve human wants (not even needs)?Joseph Chunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03991280788779768003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-3864227964949753192010-08-27T16:34:40.727-05:002010-08-27T16:34:40.727-05:00@Rhys: would it be ok to engineer human beings tha...@Rhys: would it be ok to engineer human beings that die naturally and painlessly at age 20 in order to provide us with healthy organs for transplants?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-45014345768165746702010-08-25T05:33:56.148-05:002010-08-25T05:33:56.148-05:00this might also be relevant
http://food-ethics.com...this might also be relevant<br />http://food-ethics.com/2010/08/23/the-ethics-of-healthy-bacon/<br /><br />(not really affecting the ethical arguments for vegetarianism, but possibly some other ones)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11482806268276089591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-92134970194378486892010-08-25T05:31:11.655-05:002010-08-25T05:31:11.655-05:00There has been a bit of analysis about blind chick...There has been a bit of analysis about blind chickens and whether they would be less adversely affected by overcrowding.<br />http://www.springerlink.com/content/g042l03721237110/<br /><br />Other more speculative possibilities:<br />along Rhys' line you could have animals that are engineered to live for a short lifespan and a painlessly killed a short time before they were due to die anyway.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11482806268276089591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-37630540108474648292010-08-24T22:10:17.591-05:002010-08-24T22:10:17.591-05:00The Shriver link about knocking out pain is really...The Shriver link about knocking out pain is really interesting - I'd often thought there were these two dimensions of pain, so it's nice to see them empirically dissociated.Lukeroelofshttp://www.majesticequality.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-23350027412811746942010-08-24T14:03:46.721-05:002010-08-24T14:03:46.721-05:00Thanks all.
I hadn't seen Rollin's book...Thanks all. <br /><br />I hadn't seen Rollin's book--great, I'll definitely look. My initial reaction: that sounds like an extremely sensible position.<br /><br />Thanks for the tangent too--her research is interesting.Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-59502270676685574292010-08-24T13:32:58.820-05:002010-08-24T13:32:58.820-05:00If you haven't done so already, you should hav...If you haven't done so already, you should have a look at Bernard Rollin's The Frankenstein Syndrome: Ethical and Social Issues in the Genetic Engineering of Animals (Cambridge University Press, 1995). Rollin proposes what he calls the principle of conservation of welfare, which says that any animal that is genetically engineered to serve human purposes or for environmental benefit shouldAeolushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15772583359516799143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-8097583028881560862010-08-24T11:50:28.270-05:002010-08-24T11:50:28.270-05:00I guess a problem with this is that animals that d...I guess a problem with this is that animals that die of "natural causes" are generally not considered suitable for eating. So whatever causes the death would have to not taint the quality of the meat, and there would have to be an easy way to make sure that the short life span is what killed the animal, not a disease. Still, there are probably laws that would make selling such meat Rhyshttp://letthemeatmeat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-59465327606843835282010-08-24T11:42:38.125-05:002010-08-24T11:42:38.125-05:00Maybe you could genetically engineer animals to ha...Maybe you could genetically engineer animals to have a very short lifespan, so they would never have to see a slaughterhouse. Around a certain time (like one or two years of life, but it would depend on the kind of animal and how much time it needs to get big enough) they just drop dead. If the death was immediate and painless, without agony leading up to it, it would be hard (for me at least) toRhyshttp://letthemeatmeat.comnoreply@blogger.com