tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post5699419737837022249..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Brain FreezeJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-90156294215224432722010-07-13T12:35:28.662-05:002010-07-13T12:35:28.662-05:00Oh I didn't see your final question. Yes I'...Oh I didn't see your final question. Yes I've finished it in fact. However, it's a dense enough book that more reading will be required. Certainly it's a BOLD book, that attacks well established neo-lockean identity theory, goes after Lewis, takes on Parfit, takes on the Pauline doctrine on bodily resurrection, and finally comes to some really wild conclusions, that I'm Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-38478710744906737822010-07-13T12:27:31.585-05:002010-07-13T12:27:31.585-05:00Actually having read Athena's articles more cl...Actually having read Athena's articles more closely I now recommend Johnston to her as well.<br /><br />Surviving death deals squarely with hibernation, and teleportation, with conclusions that explicitly reject the conclusions Athena comes to (at the identity theory level, the science all seems sound and it's not what he's concerned with), as he recommends a view that rejects Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-89906406447309294472010-07-13T12:16:28.362-05:002010-07-13T12:16:28.362-05:00I know, you're right. Just 1-2 more books ahe...I know, you're right. Just 1-2 more books ahead of that. If I'd stop working on the Tom Johnson merit badge, it would help. Actually, I'm about to take a fun trip. One of the destinations is the famous Moosewood Restaurant. I will be reporting back. Have you started Surviving Death?Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-63043480535879427652010-07-13T12:11:46.448-05:002010-07-13T12:11:46.448-05:00Jean, you're right: a and b, but not c. There...Jean, you're right: a and b, but not c. There will be consciousness, and it may be the same or different (I suspect the latter, since thought processes are moulded by their physical substrate). But it would definitely not be "you". This would not make it inferior, just different.<br /><br />There's a justly celebrated SF short story that faces this issue squarely in connectionAthena Andreadishttp://www.starshipreckless.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-63771944688322917622010-07-13T11:12:30.012-05:002010-07-13T11:12:30.012-05:00Time to read Surviving Death imo :)
Re Athena'...Time to read Surviving Death imo :)<br /><br />Re Athena's links. Hayles "How We Became Posthumna" is a good read.Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-57168366409353077972010-07-13T09:46:31.841-05:002010-07-13T09:46:31.841-05:00Athena, Both great articles, and so relevant. Ev...Athena, Both great articles, and so relevant. Everyone should read them, and in fact I might discuss/link in a later post.<br /><br />Love the first--for a long time I've been wondering why I can't warm up to transhumanism. Your worries help me think about it. <br /><br />Re: "lose its mind," You mean (a) that would no longer be me, and (b) the experiences would be badly Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-39872834620032138772010-07-13T09:03:34.046-05:002010-07-13T09:03:34.046-05:00Our brains and our bodies make/are our minds. A d...Our brains and our bodies make/are our minds. A disembodied brain without anchoring feedback will almost certainly lose its mind (as seen by the milder but very real outcomes of sensory deprivation and phantom limb pain).<br /><br /><a href="http://crossedgenres.com/simf/2010/03/25/if-i-can%E2%80%99t-dance-i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-part-of-your-revolution/" rel="nofollow">If I Can’t Dance, I Athena Andreadishttp://www.starshipreckless.com/noreply@blogger.com