tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post5347695534207893444..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Vegetarian or Vegan?Jean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-63691060040529894412010-05-19T23:32:29.187-05:002010-05-19T23:32:29.187-05:00Wayne, who is harmed or benefitted by being brough...Wayne, who is harmed or benefitted by being brought into existence? Unless one believes in some previous existence, surely the answer is no one, since there is no one there to harm or benefit.<br /><br />And would incarnation from a previous state be a harm or a benefit?<br /><br />"But trailing clouds of glory do we come<br />From God, who is our home: <br />Heaven lies about us in our Taylornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-69972116976051851112010-05-18T17:07:29.556-05:002010-05-18T17:07:29.556-05:00mmm yes. I forgot about that part at the end of s...mmm yes. I forgot about that part at the end of section 2. <br /><br />He brings up the Matrix as a pretty good example of farming. The AI robots farm human beings for energy, and we live pleasant lives in The Matrix. Its better than not living, but he says, "it is not hard to imagine someone saying that such a life should not be lived." <br /><br />Why? because "instituting Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08627147979307495870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-64395709795143488812010-05-18T15:18:50.256-05:002010-05-18T15:18:50.256-05:00Well, throughout the article he characterizes a &q...Well, throughout the article he characterizes a "vegetarian" as someone who eats no meat, but does eat "progressive" milk and eggs. That's the diet he calling better than veganism, on grounds that it's a step along the way to a world with perfectly humane milk and eggs (which would be better than a vegan world, on his view). It's also better than being a Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-90417384614176670242010-05-18T14:59:28.940-05:002010-05-18T14:59:28.940-05:00Hmmm... So I like the position, I'm not sure ...Hmmm... So I like the position, I'm not sure about the the route. <br /><br />Minor nitpick: Using the phrase "demi-vegetarian" to represent people who periodically eat unethically raised meat RIGHT after presenting Hare's argument for selectively eating humanely raised meat, which he calls "Demi-vegetarianism" is just begging for confusion. A "flexitarian&Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08627147979307495870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-70588366260681159212010-05-18T12:04:46.458-05:002010-05-18T12:04:46.458-05:00Matthew, In turn, I have to thank Taylor for sendi...Matthew, In turn, I have to thank Taylor for sending me the article, which I'd never seen before.<br /><br />Melissa--wow, that's definitely interesting! It's just the sort of thing Zamir thinks we ought to be heading for.Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-79342554570156903552010-05-18T11:49:01.688-05:002010-05-18T11:49:01.688-05:00You might be interested in this:
http://www.otari...You might be interested in this: <br />http://www.otarian.com/love-food/food-stories/milk.html<br />Australian billionaires are investing in a dairy system that would allow the cows to live out their natural lives. <br /><br />"We have a team working on delivering a milk option where none of the calves or cattle, male or female, are slaughtered at the end of their productive lives. This willMelissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-40976972117443269052010-05-18T11:34:07.224-05:002010-05-18T11:34:07.224-05:00Thanks for the link!Thanks for the link!Matthew Pianaltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380038537888895216noreply@blogger.com