tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post2517604190980315133..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: The Predation DefenseJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-14118331336148257252013-06-24T18:05:38.461-05:002013-06-24T18:05:38.461-05:00no one can predict" (retrodict?) is way, way ...<i>no one can predict" (retrodict?) is way, way too strong</i><br />Ah.. I should have added with any degree of verifiable accuracy.<br />Its an interesting hypothesis(assuming we agree on 'good') but to classify it as prediction someone would have to have many more experiments. The sheer timescale for such an experiment is why I used no one.<br /><br /><br />Deepak Shettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324456947895848248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-60001649170887553862013-06-21T08:17:00.094-05:002013-06-21T08:17:00.094-05:00Deepak, Biologists indulge in speculations like th...Deepak, Biologists indulge in speculations like this all the time. One example comes to mind--Richard Wrangham's book about the role of cooking in human evolution. He says without cooking, we would have evolved differently--and provides all sorts of arguments to that effect. So there's nothing wrong with the sort of hypothesis I'm throwing out here--"no one can predict" (Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-51694527154647919912013-06-20T14:33:23.557-05:002013-06-20T14:33:23.557-05:00I'm pretty sure the answer is: not as good.
I&...<i> I'm pretty sure the answer is: not as good.</i><br />I'm pretty sure we don't have any actual data to support this. No one can predict how things would have evolved if everyone was herbivores. If resources are scarce then the same or similar qualities you find in predators could evolve<br /><br />Deepak Shettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324456947895848248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-68665591054536283272013-06-18T20:42:56.181-05:002013-06-18T20:42:56.181-05:00Aeolus, Thanks, I'll look at that.
About rape...Aeolus, Thanks, I'll look at that.<br /><br />About rape--imagine a world in which nobody every rapes anyone. Instead, people couple based on love and respect. It's not the least bit obvious that a rapeless world is flawed in any way. If you think it is, kindly explain. Without rape, there is still plenty of competition for mates. The "strong and swift" get together, and Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-25058840925086012352013-06-18T19:46:31.091-05:002013-06-18T19:46:31.091-05:00Ty Raterman, "An Environmentalist's Lamen...Ty Raterman, "An Environmentalist's Lament on Predation"<br />(available via Google search)<br />Summary and critique by Ned Hettinger:<br />http://hettingern.people.cofc.edu/Environmental_Studies_695_Environmental_Philosophy/Raterman_An_Environmentalists_Lament_on_Predation.htm<br /><br />My own question: Why is the urge to rape women any different from the urge to hunt rabbits or Aeolushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15772583359516799143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-24515837291693793262013-06-18T14:38:11.116-05:002013-06-18T14:38:11.116-05:00The sorts of 'goods' you are putting forwa...The sorts of 'goods' you are putting forward, as a defense of the claim that 'predation is a force for good' concern me. Maybe biodiversity is a good (I am honestly not sure). And maybe it is a good thing to have more sophisticated, complex creatures.<br /><br />But it isn't clear to me why these goods (if they are goods, and if it makes sense to think of them as good) Daniel Hooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16959421130132302946noreply@blogger.com