tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post1122941704266327314..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: The Empty UniverseJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-52731209236373061162011-06-18T11:48:40.258-05:002011-06-18T11:48:40.258-05:00Squiggly (sorry for the name--what's with your...Squiggly (sorry for the name--what's with your pseudonym?), I agree--I don't think the debit view of preferences is entirely satisfactory. That fact that people have preferences is actually one of the things that adds vale to a life, so ought to be countenanced in some way in a pluralistic theory of value. Just having certain preferences (but not all, as you say) is good, and having Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-56331948162507569832011-06-18T11:47:15.450-05:002011-06-18T11:47:15.450-05:00Thanks, Jean and Faust.
McIntyre seems to be on...Thanks, Jean and Faust.<br /><br />McIntyre seems to be one of those philosophers, like Singer, who<br />transcend the academic field of philosophy. <br /><br />I'll have to read After Virtue. <br /><br />In any case, his book on the unconscious is recommended for people who want to make sense of Freud's term, which in Freud's treatment does not make much sense.s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-81211236217417369382011-06-18T11:42:59.797-05:002011-06-18T11:42:59.797-05:00After Virtue is astonishingly erudite (and McIntyr...After Virtue is astonishingly erudite (and McIntyre was super smart in person, I recall) and says some things that are impossible to ignore. There are moral postures locked into specific time periods--we couldn't possibly adopt them. Which makes you wonder whether moral realism is tenable, etc. etc. Certainly this is a book people should read.<br /><br />I never read Rosen, though I went toJean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-71653950213271597602011-06-18T11:27:53.697-05:002011-06-18T11:27:53.697-05:00That´s interesting.
What was your impression of M...That´s interesting.<br /><br />What was your impression of McIntyre?<br /><br />I've never read After Virtue, but I did read his little book on the unconscious. Very perceptive.s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-38914749773713133932011-06-18T03:51:52.057-05:002011-06-18T03:51:52.057-05:00yes, you're absolutely correct. I should think...yes, you're absolutely correct. I should think before I write :-)<br /><br />I get the feeling there's always something missing in these analysis. There's never an account of the probabilistic and inductive nature of our knowledge. Where you create a preference you take a risk of the preference not being satisfied. I don't make myself thirsty just to experience the pleasure of ʝɓʫɢɪɢɻʯɛʞɥʟɖʐʉɣʆʕɶɮnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-3451375192906876922011-06-17T18:34:56.123-05:002011-06-17T18:34:56.123-05:00Ahhh very cool. I'm quite taken with it so far...Ahhh very cool. I'm quite taken with it so far, about a 1/4 of the way through. So far it's reminding me of Stanley Rosen's Nihilism. Not sure about his Kierkegaard interpretation, but for the most part I'm on board. We'll see where this goes...Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-29589842748237075492011-06-17T16:50:32.912-05:002011-06-17T16:50:32.912-05:00Yes, I've read After Virtue--in fact I took a ...Yes, I've read After Virtue--in fact I took a course with McIntyre right before it came out. I can't think of a place where Singer discusses...maybe someone else who's reading this will know of a place.Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-88369620409088453412011-06-17T16:22:04.979-05:002011-06-17T16:22:04.979-05:00This is a bit of a tangent but:
1. Have you read...This is a bit of a tangent but: <br /><br />1. Have you read <i>After Virtue</i> by McIntyre? <br /><br />2. Are you aware of any Singer essays written in response to it?Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-51094492034431965052011-06-17T09:55:48.701-05:002011-06-17T09:55:48.701-05:00Ahhh, but that will make it a good idea to implant...Ahhh, but that will make it a good idea to implant a burning desire for marshmallows in someone, and then satisfy it. The desire will be -1, and the satisfied desire +1. The debit view is designed to avoid saying that's a good idea. Desire is -1, satisfaction of it just cancels the debit, so the person is back to 0. Thus, there's no reason to implant and then satisfy marshmallow Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297159994901018071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-25874753433728916002011-06-17T02:30:00.378-05:002011-06-17T02:30:00.378-05:00very interesting thanks (I haven't had the tim...very interesting thanks (I haven't had the time to read e3 yet). <br /><br />what about the following schema for the "notes" in the ledger:<br /><br />1) actual satisfied preferences: +1<br />2) actual unsatisfied preferences: -1<br />3) no preference: 0<br /><br />since we prefer no-life to a life of torture and a happy sheep to no-life, but we prefer a happy person to a happy ɓʖɘɐɸʆɮʃʂɑʬɔʌʊɪʠʋɐʔɷnoreply@blogger.com