tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post7276289523617099589..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Talking about DisabilitiesJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-2684258162050874912007-11-19T09:48:00.000-06:002007-11-19T09:48:00.000-06:00But there is a kind of "defining characteristic" o...But there is a kind of "defining characteristic" of the deaf that distinguishes them culturally - their own language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-57913272791909927712007-10-12T04:54:00.000-05:002007-10-12T04:54:00.000-05:00Normal Like Me made me remember about this, which ...Normal Like Me made me remember about <A HREF="http://www.gettingthetruthout.org/index.html" REL="nofollow">this</A>, which I bookmarked months ago. Don't give up after a few screens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-8218775684559218932007-10-11T22:16:00.000-05:002007-10-11T22:16:00.000-05:00No reason to assume TG would rather be anyone but ...No reason to assume TG would rather be anyone but herself...but who knows. I've read her "Animals in Translation" and enjoyed it. I don't know how much her cowriter created the confident, upbeat, very individual tone...but she comes across that way on video as well. I didn't know Oliver Sacks had written about her.Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-61512245742120442282007-10-11T18:45:00.000-05:002007-10-11T18:45:00.000-05:00I think TG does say, I think that's why we were ta...I think TG does say, I think that's why we were talking about it...I think she says something about not wanting to be (ahem) neurotypical, and I think we were discussing whether that made sense or not, whether she could know she didn't want to be neurotypical or not, etc. Then again it could have been someone else in Anthro on Mars, and we extended the discussion to Grandin. But I thought the Ophelia Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000353980872079468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-52121793674724377502007-10-11T15:10:00.000-05:002007-10-11T15:10:00.000-05:00"Neurotypical" is the proper word vs autistic, isn..."Neurotypical" is the proper word vs autistic, isn't it! Maybe we could have "corporotypical" as well.<BR/><BR/>I suppose only TG is qualified to give a opinion as to whether she would have wanted to be different, I don't recall that she does in any of the ?4 books of hers I've read (but I may just have forgotten). My guess is that, if she had wanted to change anything, it would have been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-11686264422222622272007-10-11T11:10:00.000-05:002007-10-11T11:10:00.000-05:00The thing about Tom Shakespeare not wanting to be ...The thing about Tom Shakespeare not wanting to be different interests me. I argued with a friend about that when we both read Oliver Sacks's account of Temple Grandin in <I>An Anthropologist on Mars</I>. My friend, who uses the word 'normal' a lot (usually to describe people like her - married, with children, middle class, etc), kept saying what a lot Grandin was missing out on; I kept saying yesOphelia Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000353980872079468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-34432623082602662212007-10-11T08:56:00.000-05:002007-10-11T08:56:00.000-05:00Micah, I appreciate that. Some would say wishy-wa...Micah, I appreciate that. Some would say wishy-washy, but I'm very glad you think "balanced"! JeanJean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-24880092007550011572007-10-11T07:45:00.000-05:002007-10-11T07:45:00.000-05:00Jean, you have a way of writing extremely well-bal...Jean, you have a way of writing extremely well-balanced posts. Not many people have that virtue.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the education!Micah Tillmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05330667781305762700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-83052975464993490012007-10-10T16:47:00.000-05:002007-10-10T16:47:00.000-05:00I sympathise with the "keep things private" impuls...I sympathise with the "keep things private" impulse but it tends just to lead to more probems when you're forced to "come out" because of practicalities. If people interact with you for a while without "knowing", when they do find out, they are even more horrified in case they've said something wrong or not been sensitive enough. So you end up trying to go on keeping people in the dark so as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-16327017710918492742007-10-10T16:14:00.000-05:002007-10-10T16:14:00.000-05:00The "C" word is really hard for people. Friends he...The "C" word is really hard for people. Friends here with cancer really do seem to spend a lot of time taking care of people so they won't get too upset about it.<BR/><BR/>I think that's one of the reasons some people just like to keep things private. It's all they can do to take care of themselves. <BR/><BR/>I think you're reading that "you look so well" comment exactly right...but ya gotta Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-65003708045805044012007-10-10T16:04:00.000-05:002007-10-10T16:04:00.000-05:00It's certainly a current medical term, although sa...It's certainly a current medical term, although saying "achandroplastic dwarf" would sound even more suitably medical. I just Googled the latter, and found a (serious) page entitled "how to avoid upsettig a dwarf - don't call him a midget". Aaaaargh!<BR/><BR/>I liked the book, too, although it had too much incomprehensible US politics for me.<BR/><BR/>I was reminded about the overly nervous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-48240753364443274752007-10-10T15:32:00.000-05:002007-10-10T15:32:00.000-05:00Yes, the truth is both--liberated and confined--bu...Yes, the truth is both--liberated and confined--but I probably really shouldn't have just said confined.<BR/><BR/>I like HMcBJ's book...it goes on and on a bit, but I learned a lot from it. <BR/><BR/>I think that's very true about people getting overly nervous about what to say--the worry about words just makes us want to avoid people and subjects.<BR/><BR/>I'm still wondering if "dwarf" really Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-11442814447154828722007-10-10T14:54:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:54:00.000-05:00That should be "not stated an opinion" in the firs...That should be "not stated an opinion" in the first para.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-72846668495403704512007-10-10T14:52:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:52:00.000-05:00I think it's only courteous to try to call people ...I think it's only courteous to try to call people by the name they prefer, rather like trying to pronounce people's given names properly. However, where there is no consensus about what a group prefers, it seems to me we can be reasonably tough-minded about not being browbeaten by person X into having to refer to person Y (who doesn't care, or even who has just stated an opinion) in a certain Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com