tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post241743850295761303..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Knock Out MeatJean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-3702200674921147612010-09-30T10:51:29.950-05:002010-09-30T10:51:29.950-05:00Yup. Got the book. No pronouncements until I'm...Yup. Got the book. No pronouncements until I'm done.Matthew Pianaltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380038537888895216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-90826015704638405872010-09-30T10:41:55.115-05:002010-09-30T10:41:55.115-05:00Ah..Ok, I wonder the same thing.
By the way, did ...Ah..Ok, I wonder the same thing.<br /><br />By the way, did you get the book? Are you enjoying (if you've started)?Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-58906787842369659842010-09-30T10:36:27.947-05:002010-09-30T10:36:27.947-05:00Fair point. My point was not well-stated. I guess ...Fair point. My point was not well-stated. I guess it might be interesting to think about whether knocking out pain-capacities can be coherently understood as treating them kindly. (I keep thinking of McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...)Matthew Pianaltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380038537888895216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-35916634694703731332010-09-30T10:28:37.145-05:002010-09-30T10:28:37.145-05:00Ooh...great topic--growing human in vitro meat. Ne...Ooh...great topic--growing human in vitro meat. Next chance I get to gross out some students, I will bring it up. Good food for thought, too.<br /><br />I don't know if I buy that "if they're for us, they shouldn't be too worried about the pain in the first place." I don't see why someone shouldn't think God gave us permission to eat animals (so in a sense they areJean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-57052432091832841172010-09-30T09:00:37.101-05:002010-09-30T09:00:37.101-05:00Sure. I think that as long as one focuses on the p...Sure. I think that as long as one focuses on the problem of pain (or frames the problem as <i>essentially</i> a problem to do with pain), it's hard to resist the thought that proposals like this are serious possibilities to be carefully considered. But if I may slightly shift the subject to in vitro meat, one could point out that if the problem is just to do with pain, then it should be ok toMatthew Pianaltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380038537888895216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-9833915212390783892010-09-28T22:27:30.707-05:002010-09-28T22:27:30.707-05:00Matt, Thanks...it did go well! A lot of people th...Matt, Thanks...it did go well! A lot of people think steak is "to die for." Not them, of course, but the cow. As long as that's what people think, I guess we need to think about these possibilities, weird as they are.Jean Kazeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-83778033764625722092010-09-27T21:39:23.976-05:002010-09-27T21:39:23.976-05:00Hi Jean,
I missed the first discussion but somewh...Hi Jean,<br /><br />I missed the first discussion but somewhat recall when this proposal hit the streets. "Meat machines" gets closer than "yucky." But what, one might ask, is the problem with meat machines that don't feel pain. But it seems that the elephant in the room on proposals like this is the sheer amount of work that would have to go into...what?...a painless Matthew Pianaltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380038537888895216noreply@blogger.com