tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post1810582251041395143..comments2023-10-14T09:40:06.690-05:00Comments on Jean Kazez: Evidence of Relativism?Jean Kazezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-75920394174503549562010-12-20T11:22:49.176-06:002010-12-20T11:22:49.176-06:00As far as I know, only human beings use language:...As far as I know, only human beings use language: so "evil" is <br />always applied by human beings to the actions or character of other human beings.s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-91694475646805532122010-12-20T10:02:48.767-06:002010-12-20T10:02:48.767-06:00If they believe they are getting at an "innat...If they believe they are getting at an "innate" moral mind, then I enthusiastically agree. For one thing, they are going to need to make sure they run that test on a bunch of pepole from a wide variety of cultures...<br /><br />They can't possibly think they are getting at an inate moral mind can they?<br /><br />Amos: What does it MEAN that they are evil? Evil to the universe? To Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-9187245999712302652010-12-20T07:04:07.941-06:002010-12-20T07:04:07.941-06:00My last answer should read: "is there an obj...My last answer should read: "is there an objective meta-metaethic fact that says that metaethics have to be philosophically consistent"?s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-10126578049811766912010-12-20T05:53:25.514-06:002010-12-20T05:53:25.514-06:00Faust, I think these experimenters see themselves...Faust, I think these experimenters see themselves as getting at the nature of the innate moral mind. In response to that, it's fair to bring up tolerance education and the way it interferes with what would have otherwise been people's reactions. It's also fair to ask if the experimenters are asking people questions that make them indifferent or concerned. If I'm the one whose Jean Kazeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-16111578117234411892010-12-20T05:24:18.359-06:002010-12-20T05:24:18.359-06:00Faust:
I've lived in enough different culture...Faust:<br /><br />I've lived in enough different cultures and read sufficent Nietzsche and Marx to see most values debates as a question of interests, of powers or groups in conflict, of personalities seeking to affirm or rationalize their way of life. <br /><br />I understand that for Swedish feminists, Julian Assange is a rapist, while for the man on the street in Chile (and s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-84876073541112242772010-12-19T18:42:19.396-06:002010-12-19T18:42:19.396-06:00Faust:
Have you played the game which I linked to...Faust:<br /><br />Have you played the game which I linked to above?<br /><br />If so, I imagine that you, like I, answered that morality is relative to or depends on the culture.<br /><br />However, when you came to the question about genocide being evil, how did you answer?<br /><br />I know that you can claim that our belief that genocide is evil<br />is dependent on us being liberal s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-34160037975731244932010-12-19T18:13:01.624-06:002010-12-19T18:13:01.624-06:00As the resident relativist I will take up the ques...As the resident relativist I will take up the question re: grading:<br /><br />I would hold that you (or anyone else) flipping a coin to assign me grades is wrong according to me, and not wrong according to you (assuming of course that you <i>really do believe</i> that flipping coins is the correct way to assign grades). <br /><br />This is because I believe that grades should be awarded Faustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-8715627407991289032010-12-18T08:25:36.125-06:002010-12-18T08:25:36.125-06:00In any case, even if most people
would not be rel...In any case, even if most people<br />would not be relativists if it was a case of their own paper (I think that I would), the principle that people are moral objectivists when there is more at stake still holds, since for most people the question of their grade matters more than, say, slave labor in China. <br /><br />I have a tendency to see myself from the standpoint of the universe s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-76572206928298355202010-12-18T08:16:29.800-06:002010-12-18T08:16:29.800-06:00Amos, I actually think it's the opposite. When...Amos, I actually think it's the opposite. When the grading of your own paper is at stake, you're not going to be a relativist. You're not going to think Professor Strange is doing something permissible to you, just because in his culture grades are distributed with the toss of a coin. It's fine for "them" to run around killing or mutilating each other, but once it'Jean Kazezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592593002719828153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-24914535638892100112010-12-18T08:09:11.061-06:002010-12-18T08:09:11.061-06:00http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/check.php
he...http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/check.php<br /><br />here's Jeremy's game.s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310450667755637519.post-36492972232172111542010-12-18T07:56:20.221-06:002010-12-18T07:56:20.221-06:00My impression is that many people are relativists ...My impression is that many people are relativists when there is less at stake, and moral objectivists when there is more. <br /><br />For example, it is easy to be a relativist about whether papers are graded by flipping a coin or not (there is not much at stake), <br />but it is very hard to be a relativist about<br />genocide. <br /><br />Jeremy has a test on moral relativism, and as I s. wallersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448905469871566228noreply@blogger.com